How do you determine approximately how far the device is according to the ping results?

KkkimKkkim Member Posts: 1

If you want to figure is a device closer to you , or at the other end of the house, would the graph determine this by how far the first point drawn is from the beginning of the ping graph ? So the closer the point is to the beginning , the closer that device would be to you ?

VioletChepilRobinCiaran

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  • VioletChepilVioletChepil London, UKMember Posts: 2,471
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    Thanks for the question @Kkkim
    It's not really a reliable means to do this. There could be some correlation but there are too many other factors such as network congestion, routing etc. 
    What is ping test? Learn more here on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping_(networking_utility) 

    "Ping is a computer network administration software utility used to test the reachability of a host on an Internet Protocol (IP) network..Ping measures the round-trip time for messages sent from the originating host to a destination computer that are echoed back to the source."

    @kltaylor @Marc @Pooh @robin anything to add?

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  • Scooby_Doo1Scooby_Doo1 Member Posts: 1
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    Thanks for ping info, learn something new everyday!

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    VioletChepilHronos
  • HronosHronos Member, Beta Tester Posts: 289
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    Ping is more useful for trouble shoot the network. In a home local network the time delay for a response is so small, you could just see "1ms" in a Windows machine. The times really start to climb when there are other networks involved (VLANs or so).

    As per the graph in FingApp, the first point on it could be affected by to many reasons (as @VioletChepil mention) even when the device been pinged is on some sort of "sleeping" / "low energy" mode or just to busy to attend the ping request.

    Keep looking up!
    BilldriftVioletChepil
  • TOMMYDTOMMYD Member Posts: 4
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    Thank you now I know what I'm looking at when it pings! Lol thanks a lot!

    VioletChepil
  • UHTUHT Member Posts: 7
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    Can any one guide what does this mean? What is generic?

  • VioletChepilVioletChepil London, UKMember Posts: 2,471
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    Hi @UHT
    A generic device is one that cannot be identified by Fing. This could be because of location permissions and blocking access to the ARP table on iOS 11 and above. Here are more details about this: https://help.fing.com/knowledge-base/cant-fing-see-mac-addresses-ios-11/ 

    Enabling new required location permissions:
    If you are not getting your network name, this could be because of new location permissions required. If you could try these steps to ensure they are enabled. 

    Can you check the app settings and make sure location is set to ALWAYS (for best performance)?
    This allows Fing app to read network name etc. on iOS 13 and Android 10. 

    To make sure all permissions are enabled correctly: 
    • Set location permissions to ALWAYS in app settings
    • Open Fing App and go to ‘Network’ tab
    • Click on the ISP name and it will open the Network page
    •  Clear out the Network information such as Address
    • Next, to the MAP section, there is a small icon to auto-detect location. Click on the icon 
    • Try scanning again 
    Let me know if that changes anything and any further questions you may have.
    Cheers,
    Violet

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    UHT
  • UHTUHT Member Posts: 7
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    Can any one guide what does this mean? What is generic?

  • UHTUHT Member Posts: 7
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    Hi@VioletChepil

    thanks for the help. What does packet loss mean?

    If it’s a suspicious activity, how to block it? What can I do with the MAC addresse?

    regards

  • VioletChepilVioletChepil London, UKMember Posts: 2,471
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    @UHT - you can block the device with Fingbox: https://www.fing.com/products/fingbox 
    Or, you can change your router admin/password. What kind of router do you have? Maybe we can help you find instructions on doing this. 

    Packet lost information:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_loss

    "Packet loss occurs when one or more packets of data travelling across a computer network fail to reach their destination. Packet loss is either caused by errors in data transmission, typically across wireless networks, or network congestion."

    This could be due to network congestion? 

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  • UHTUHT Member Posts: 7
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    Hi @VioletChepil

    Thanks for advise regarding blocking.

    my router is talk talk.


    regards

    VioletChepil
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