Beta Testing of Fing 8.8.0 for Android

marco_from_fing

Hey all!
After iOS (v 8.8.1 has been released with quite a few fixes, thanks to your feedback), here's the time for Android version. 

We have significantly reviewed and revamped all areas to provide a unified smooth User Interface across Fing and Fingbox pages. This is part 1 of an ongoing activity to align, simplify and improve the journeys within the App. 
Not only that, you can now find:

1. Access to Fing Outage Detector from the App: see and get notifications for Internet outages in your area about your Internet Provider
2. Access to the full set of stats about Internet Providers: statistics, ratings, reviews, scoreboards, all from within the App. Navigate through cities and internet providers to be informed

Joining the open beta is easy: just head to
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.overlook.android.fing
and you will enable the possibility to receive the latest and greatest, directly from the Play Store.

Let us know what you think (and more importantly, if you spot bugs, crashes and the like).
Happy Finging!

rooted

When you have a Fingbox you can't long press a device in the network and delete it, logout and you can delete devices.

Robin

rooted said:

When you have a Fingbox you can't long press a device in the network and delete it, logout and you can delete devices.

Thanks for the feedback @rooted. I will pass on your feedback to our developers.

rooted

Now delete is back and everything else is missing, you can still access these greyed out by long pressing the host.

rooted

Okay 8.8.0 (Jan 21, 2020) fixed the above issues, thank you @marco_from_fing.

rooted

The latest beta update broke the ability to delete devices again. @marco_from_fing

You can still delete offline devices but you can not delete devices which are online.

Robin

Thanks for the feedback @rooted
With our latest updates with the Fing app, you can't remove an online device. From the 8.8.0 update, actions like WOL and others are not available if you are not in the same network of the selected device.
In order to use the WOL, you need to be connected to the same access point as your device which you want to use the feature for and then you will see the feature activated.

rooted

https://community.fing.com/discussion/comment/11941#Comment_11941

That's seems an odd thing to remove, I like the ability to delete online devices and do a rescan as a way to verify the device is indeed online. Some of my devices don't respond to pings and this was the only easy way to verify connectivity.

Marc

+1 on what @rooted said.

marco_from_fing

To clarify on @Robin's post:

* Deleting an online device from a Fingbox network has always been disabled. That is because, if the device is online and you delete it, Fingbox will automatically re-create it at the next scan because it's an active monitoring system. If the user logs out of the account, the network he's seeing is not "live data" anymore, and therefore you can delete it. 

* Deleting a device on a manually-scanned network is instead always possible, regardless of the online/offline state, because that state is just a snapshot of the past and doesn't get automatically updated.

If you're not able to delete an online device from a manually-scanned network, that is a bug. Let us know if that is what you intended.

Marc

marco_from_fing said:

To clarify on @Robin's post:

* Deleting an online device from a Fingbox network has always been disabled. That is because, if the device is online and you delete it, Fingbox will automatically re-create it at the next scan because it's an active monitoring system. If the user logs out of the account, the network he's seeing is not "live data" anymore, and therefore you can delete it. 

* Deleting a device on a manually-scanned network is instead always possible, regardless of the online/offline state, because that state is just a snapshot of the past and doesn't get automatically updated.

If you're not able to delete an online device from a manually-scanned network, that is a bug. Let us know if that is what you intended.

The clarification of a device discovered via the Fingbox versus manual scan makes sense, for me at least, that is what I would expect.  For instance my Linksys Router will also not let you delete a Live device from its list.

rooted

I think my issues stemmed from my Fingbox giving out on me then, because I couldn't delete a device after a manual scan.

KoalaTeaTime

https://community.fing.com/discussion/comment/11969#Comment_11969

And what if I'm remote on vacation and need to wol a device because of a power outage or something of that nature? It may ac power on but sleep and I need to wol? Just saying...

Marc

@Robin, is there a reason for the WOL limitations?  This might help @KoalaTeaTime understand the why and whether posting a feature request would even be possible.

marco_from_fing

There's no specific technical limitation; this could be achieved in a way by setting the auto-wake on LAN when in need, and disable it when the device is back online.
The basic approach is that Fingbox should help users by letting them know what is happening, so the online/offline state is detected automatically and reported with alerts, and if a device is supposed to be always on and goes down, automatically wake it up, rather then giving users the burden to check and troubleshoot by executing manually the  commands for pinging and waking manually.