Are changing router password and WiFi password the same?

SystemSystem Administrator Posts: 38 admin
This discussion was created from comments split from: I have 2 generic devices in my list without names.

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  • UHTUHT Member Posts: 7

    Hi


    my router shows the following image.

    When I click on http it opens the page with my IP address.


    But when I click on HTTPS it shows the message below and


    It also opens the page with IP address, but says this website may be impersonating “ then it shows my IP address”.


    I’ve changed the password of my router .

    is it something to worry about?

    is the password for the router and WiFi password the same?

    Which one is more important to change?



    kindly guide


    regards

  • VioletChepilVioletChepil London, UKMember Posts: 2,474 admin
    Hi @UHT
    HTTP website would come back as not private. HTTPS shouldn't I don't believe. Typically, you wouldn't get a security warning for a HTTPS website because it is secured by SSL. 
    What is the URL in the browser - is this the admin page of the device?
    I don't believe that router admin and password are the same as WiFi password. 

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  • UHTUHT Member Posts: 7

    Hi Violet


    Thank you for guidance.

    Yes this is the admin page of the device.

    but the address is same for both I mean the usual IP address starting with 192......

    The one with http takes me to the same admin page where you have to put login details, showing my router IP address in the bar but when I click on https one it shows “this connection is not private “, still showing my router IP address in the address bar.

  • MarcMarc Member, Beta Tester Posts: 485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @UHT I did a quick Google search and found this...  (https://support.turbotenant.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000855908-I-got-a-message-that-says-Your-connection-is-not-private-What-do-I-do-?mobile_site=true).  

    There are a few troubleshooting tips that could help. It long so easier to post the link above. 

    Thats Daphnee, she's a good dog...
  • MirekmalMirekmal Member, Beta Tester Posts: 55 ✭✭✭
    The first thing to check is address. If you are using just IP address for both hhtp and https connection and it stays the same in address bar for both connections (and are address of your router admin page), then there is nothing to worry about. Just because you have no valid security certificate it shows this comment about impersonating web page. If this would be the case for domain address, then it is different story, since domain name can be 'stolen' (for example by fraudulent DNS server) and the valid security certificate is something that can help to distinguish such situation. Again, if certificate if for example expired, it would give the same error message, not necessarily meaning it is insecure... But at least something to be very careful to access! 
    MarcHronos
  • pwmeekpwmeek Member, Beta Tester Posts: 96 ✭✭✭
    On all the Comcast/Xfinity Modem-Gateway/WiFi (for quite a while)/Router (recently) boxes, the Modem-Gateway administration page definitely has its own password.
    Since Comcast added WiFi and additional Ethernet ports to their modems, there are one or two additional passwords. One for the "public" Xfinity WiFi usually named "XFINITY" (which lets you access any public Xfinity WiFi, not just your own) and if you have set up a private WiFi on your MWR, it will have its own name and a third password. In my Comcast-served apartment complex, there are:

    • a half a dozen "xfinitywifi" networks that are completely open (I suspect that these are the personal networks that were never set up properly and have no password at all),
    • four "XFINITY" networks that I could access with my password that works for all public WiFi running on Comcast Modem/WiFi boxes,
    • twenty-nine password-protected WiFi networks, 
    • another twenty completely protected (SSID concealed),
    • my own personal WiFi (protected by my third password). 
    • and my HP printer
    These numbers could be cut roughly in half as there are 2.4 and 5 GHz  versions for most of them. Finding a workable channel was tough, although many of those are fairly weak at my location. (There are probably hundreds more in my complex that I can't detect from here.)
    On my Mac, I have a great App called WiFi Explorer which lets me sort through all these competing networks. There are probably Win and *NIX apps as well that can do something similar. I wish there was an iOS App that would run on my iPad. (I've tried several,  but none is as good as WiFi Explorer.)
    --Pete
    Bon Vivant and Raconteur
  • vulcansheartvulcansheart Member, Beta Tester Posts: 89 ✭✭✭
    @pwmeek All of the "xfinity" SSID's that you see are part of Comcast's WiFi hotspot network - not unsecured personal networks. https://hotspots.wifi.comcast.com/
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  • vulcansheartvulcansheart Member, Beta Tester Posts: 89 ✭✭✭
    @pwmeek All of the "xfinitywifi" SSID's are Comcast's WiFi hotspot network - https://hotspots.wifi.comcast.com/
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  • HronosHronos Member, Beta Tester Posts: 283 ✭✭✭✭
    Hi @UHT!
    As others have said, the "problem" with the HTTP/HTTPS is most probably the "S"part, certificate self signed and/or expired.
    About your question "is the password for the router and WiFi password the same?"
    No, they are not.  Wi-Fi Password is the one used to connect to the network, while Router Password is only used for Admin purposes.
    This second one, shouldn't be know by anybody aside the network admin, and as such, It shouldn't be the same as the Wi-Fi password.
    Now: "Which one is more important to change?"
    Both are, in a recurrently timely fashion if I may point it out. Some suggestions on the "best practice" are: never the same, as complex as you can manage, and so on.
    Keep looking up!
    MarcCiaran
  • UHTUHT Member Posts: 7

    Hi @Hronos


    thank you very much, your reply was very helpful. Much appreciated.

    UHT

    MarcHronosCiaran
  • HronosHronos Member, Beta Tester Posts: 283 ✭✭✭✭
    You are welcome @UHT!
    Keep looking up!
    Ciaran
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